Group B How can they all be related?

We have 5 surnames in Group B that seem to be in some cases worlds apart. How can they be related? I am not saying how exactly but I hope this helps.  They are WHEATON, HOWELLS, MALLENBY, RAINES and HANCOCK. Working backwards from the non WHEATON lines with the most recent ancestry of each first.

HOWELLS

 John 3 HOWELLS (Benjamin 2, John 1) ) b. 1858 Stockton upon Tees, Durham, England. Came to us. 1887 to USA

He is the son of

Benjamin 2 HOWELLS who was born in b. 1835/8 Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

1851 Census Bedwellty, Monmothshire, Wales (lived on School Row)

occ. Labourer & Iron Works

m. Elizabeth EVANS 1 Mar 1858 in Tredegar; she b. 1840 Monmouthshire, Wales she d. 13 Dec 1894 Stockon, Durham

1861 Census Middlesbrough, Durham (Goshford St.)

occ. Puddler

1871 Census Stockton, Durham age 33

He is the son of

John3 HOWELLS b. 1784-91 Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales

m 1st Margaret EDWARDS 3 Dec 1821 Mynyddislwyn St. Tudor, Glamorgan, she b. 1801

m 2nd Anne (DAVIES) 2nd Qtr 1850 at Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire she b. 1802 Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales

1841 Census Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire (lived on Rai Harryr Blawd)

1851 Census Bedwellty, Monmothshire, Wales (lived on School Row)

occ. Iron Baller

MALLENBY

Thomas Todd3 MALLENBY, b. 23 December 1913, Lying in Hospital, Newcastle, Northumberland; d. 1974, Canada.

Son of

Thomas Todd2 MALLENBY (James1) was born Bet. January – March 1887 in Newcastle, Northumberland, and died 12 July 1917. He married Ann O’BRIEN formerly HUTCHINSONOctober 1913 in Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland. She was born Abt. 1893, and died.

1891 21 Byron Terrace, Elswick Northumberland MELLABY

Living with father James, mother shown as Jno? and siblings James, John, Ann and Robert

1901 Not found

1911 Not found

Marriage: October 1913, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland

1913 24 Carr Street, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumbland (birth of son)

Military service: WWI Northumberland Fusiliers Private No 28478

Occupation: 1913 General Labourer

James1 MALLENBY was born Bet. January – March 1847 and died in Not found. He married Ann Elizabeth TODDBet. October – December 1868 in Newcastle Upon Tyne District, Northumberland. She was born Bet. October – December 1850 in Newcastle upon Tyne District, Northumberland (possible birth), and died Bet. April – June 1890 in Newcastle Upon Tyne District, Northumberland age 42 (possible death, age discrepancy)

To find birth “James MALLENBY born 1840/1850” entered with “variants” ticked for surname. Only one came up for a James MELLANBY born March quarter 1847 Stockton District, Durham

On 1891 census age suggests year of birth as 1845 and place is shown as Newcastle, Northumberland

On 1861 census age suggests year of birth as 1847 and place is shown as Sedgefield, Durham

On 1851 census age suggests year of birth as 1846 and place is shown as Sedgefield, Durham

1851 Farmhouse No.2, Garmondsway West, Stockton, Durham as MELLONBY

With parents James and Isabella and siblings George and William T

Visiting was Hannah CARR (18) Formerly Housemaid at an Inn born Bicker Hill,

Northumberland. Lodging with them was John RAINE (35) Ag Lab born Embleton Row,

Durham.

1861 5 Wm Street, Gateshead, Durham as MALLENBY

With parents James and Isabella and siblings George, William, Eliza, Hannah and Isabella

1871 20 Railway Street, Elswick, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland as MELLONBY

born Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland

With wife Ann E and children William T and James

1881 30 Railway Street, Elswick, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland as MALLENBY

born Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland

With wife Ann and children John, Thomas, Ann and Robert

1891 21 Byron Terrace, Elswick, Northumberland as MELLABY

born Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland

With wife Ann and children James, John, Ann, Robert and Thomas

1901 21 Byron Terrace, Elswick, Northumberland as a widower as MELLANBY

born Middleham, Yorkshire

Living with him was a servant

1911 Not found

Occupation: 1861 Blacksmith; 1871 Rivetter; 1881 Boiler Smith; 1891 Boiler work; 1901 Engineer, Boiler Maker

 

RAINES

John Wesley5 RAINES (Lawrence4,3, Harry2, John Henry1) b 1812 Anderson Dist, SC.

gg-grandson of John Henry Raines b 1685 Westbury, Wiltshire (check location on map)

 

OR this

John RAINES (REINES) b. 1826 In Lambston, Pembrokeshire, Wales

1851 census Llangynwyd, Glamorgan occ. Iron Puddler

1861 census Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan occ Puddler

 

HANCOCKS and WHEATONS

Share locations in North DEVON from the 1300’s to present.

Hancocks, Wheatons, Raines, and Howells are all found in early 1600’s-1700’s Glamorgan and Monmouthshire, Wales (no Mallenbys). In the 1800’s Raines, Mallenby and Howells are found in Durham and Northumberland. So the hot spot is North Devon, north Wiltshire and Southern Wales in the 1600-1700s. In the 1800’s Durham/Northumberland, England. I believe this is the general outline for how all the Group B men descend from a common ancestor. Likely that common ancestor was from either from one or other side of the Bristol Channel that separates South Western England from South Western Wales. For hundreds if not thousands of years the people on either side of the channel actively traded and moved back and forth.  So what seemed quite impossible now can make some semblance of sense. Please check out the map here. I have added all the locations mentioned above.

 

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